Zealous or Furious Sword Hilt? - Guild Wars Forums

Sir Tidus · Mar 14, 2008, 05:00 AM // 05:00

Which do you think is better in general PvE? Zealous or Furious (perfect) sword hilt?

jonnieboi05 · Mar 14, 2008, 05:01 AM // 05:01

personally, for pve, use furious and vamp. furious while idle, vamp while fighting.

Pleikki · Mar 14, 2008, 05:05 AM // 05:05

I prefer Zealous..

arcanemacabre · Mar 14, 2008, 05:06 AM // 05:06

If it's a choice between the two - Zealous. Furious doesn't do enough to be useful even in a pure adrenaline build. Besides, if you're running a pure adrenaline build, you'd also be using "For great justice!" which is all you really need. If your build isn't energy intensive, Zealous isn't of much use, either, but at least it usually provides a ton of energy for when you need it. Otherwise, I'd say Vampiric or an elemental mod if you have a conjure.

Fury Incarnate · Mar 14, 2008, 05:07 AM // 05:07

Your gear choices should reflect your build. If you're using an adrenaline-heavy build, you might want furious (personally I don't think it's powerful enough to run even then, but that's up to you.) Zealous is a good way to manage energy in an energy-heavy build since swords attack fairly fast, particularly if you're using skills that increase attack speed. Ie., because classes are so flexible in their builds in GW, its hard to suggest a "best" mod for mainline PvE.

Personally I'd recommend Sundering or Vampiric, but again that's up to you.

Richardt · Mar 14, 2008, 05:12 AM // 05:12

I was a big fan of Zealous for a while-loves me some energy.

Kyomi Tachibana · Mar 14, 2008, 06:13 AM // 06:13

Zealous is excellent when running a build that inludes "You Move Like A Dwarf!" Or "Finish Him!", or PvE skills in general.

**Marty Silverblade** · Mar 14, 2008, 06:38 AM // 06:38

Furious is crap, if you want to pump up your adrenaline, then take FGJ and abuse DSlash. You'll only need Zealous if you're going to spam expensive PvE skills, but I don't think there are that many that would actually be useful. Vamp > Furious & Zealous in PvE.

Div · Mar 14, 2008, 08:01 AM // 08:01

Vamp or zealous depending on if you want damage or energy.

Wirt · Mar 14, 2008, 05:42 PM // 17:42

Personally my most used sword and ax uses zealous. But it depends on the build that you are running. If you have an energy intensive build, use zealous, however if you are all or near all adrenaline and are choosing between the 2 mods, might as well use furious. If you do use zealous, make sure you have another weapon without zealous in the quick weapon slot, so you dont get stranded between fights with low E and only one pip of regen.

Vampiric is probably the best at giving damage, but the degen is kinda annoying, however you can again jsut switch out between fights.

Stormlord Alex · Mar 14, 2008, 05:45 PM // 17:45

Of the two, Zealous.
I can't think of many times when I need that extra energy though.

Sir Tidus · Mar 15, 2008, 11:32 PM // 23:32

Thanks a lot guys.

nem coke · Mar 15, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44

This has been bothering me for a while...Let's assume you have 3 weapon sets (put the spear/bow or whatever aside).... zealous, elemental and #1 set and you run Cripslash,Rush and Final thrust. Would furious be worth bringing there? This is just a random example, so without ''OMG WHO'D RUN THAT CRAP'' pls. All the stuff I mentioned reffers to pvp. Also srry for not making a new thread.

Crom The Pale · Mar 16, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

Furious basically grants you 1 extra strike of adrenaline every 10 hits...

For weapon mods most will go with the following lineup:

Vamp
Sundering
Zealous
Elemental(matched to a conjure)

None of the other weapon prefixs are worth using.

Bowstring Badass · Mar 16, 2008, 12:29 AM // 00:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

Furious basically grants you 1 extra strike of adrenaline every 10 hits...

For weapon mods most will go with the following lineup:

Vamp
Sundering (except for swords and daggers)
Zealous
Elemental(matched to a conjure)

None of the other weapon prefixs are worth using.

Fix'd...

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Diddy bow · Mar 16, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45

Id go for a vamp, with an elemental when you not hitting much, but out of the two furious zealous can somtimes drain more than you gain

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Numa Pompilius · Mar 16, 2008, 01:10 AM // 01:10

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

You'll only need Zealous if you're going to spam expensive PvE skills, but I don't think there are that many that would actually be useful. Vamp > Furious & Zealous in PvE.

I'd say Pain Inverter, Asuran Scan, Great Dwarf Armor, Great Dwarf Weapon, Vanguard Assassin Support, Necrosis, Cry of Pain, Technobabble, I Am The Strongest!, I Am Unstoppable!, and You Move Like A Dwarf! are all considerably > Vamp. And yeah, I've got a zealous weapon on my warrior.

Steps_Descending · Mar 16, 2008, 01:22 AM // 01:22

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

I'd say Pain Inverter, Asuran Scan, Great Dwarf Armor, Great Dwarf Weapon, Vanguard Assassin Support, Necrosis, Cry of Pain, Technobabble, I Am The Strongest!, I Am Unstoppable!, and You Move Like A Dwarf! are all considerably > Vamp. And yeah, I've got a zealous weapon on my warrior.

If you need a zealous to use those skills, do you alway use 3 of them on your bar? Even so, aside from asura scan, none of them are spammable. SO there is no need for a zealous unless your whole build is using energy, in which case you would consider a zealous weapon anyway.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 16, 2008, 02:30 AM // 02:30

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Originally Posted by Steps_Descending

If you need a zealous to use those skills, do you alway use 3 of them on your bar?

Pretty much, yes. Especially You Move Like A Dwarf! (interrupt, knockdown, damage, and cripple all in one) and Assassin Support (decent damage but above all a great decoy: use at beginning of fight and he'll interrupt the enemy's first skill, and then the entire enemy group will waste their biggest spells on him) never leave my skillbar. I don't find Pain Inverter as uber as most seem to, but it's useful against rit and ele bosses.

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Even so, aside from asura scan, none of them are spammable.

Necrosis recharges in 2 seconds, unless I'm mistaken, but you're right, my warrior isn't a spellslinger even with PvE skills. However, neither has he got enough energy to use two or three 10 energy skills every ten seconds without using a zealous weapon.

N E D M · Mar 16, 2008, 05:07 AM // 05:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

Furious basically grants you 1 extra strike of adrenaline every 10 hits...

no, furious gives you 1/10th chance of double adren on a given strike

Example - if you have your furious sword, and use enraging charge and "for great justice!", if the furious happens to hit while both these are active you get 12 adren instanty.

(vamp is best tho, sundering is only good vs rangers + squishies.)

Mar 14, 2008, 05:00 AM // 05:00	#1
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	Zealous or Furious Sword Hilt? Which do you think is better in general PvE? Zealous or Furious (perfect) sword hilt?

Mar 14, 2008, 05:01 AM // 05:01	#2
jonnieboi05 Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mableton, Georgia Guild: Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]	personally, for pve, use furious and vamp. furious while idle, vamp while fighting.

Mar 14, 2008, 05:05 AM // 05:05	#3
Pleikki WTB q8 15^50 Weapons! Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: ???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]	I prefer Zealous..

Mar 14, 2008, 05:06 AM // 05:06	#4
arcanemacabre Grotto Attendant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North Kryta Province Guild: Angel Sharks [As]	If it's a choice between the two - Zealous. Furious doesn't do enough to be useful even in a pure adrenaline build. Besides, if you're running a pure adrenaline build, you'd also be using "For great justice!" which is all you really need. If your build isn't energy intensive, Zealous isn't of much use, either, but at least it usually provides a ton of energy for when you need it. Otherwise, I'd say Vampiric or an elemental mod if you have a conjure.

Mar 14, 2008, 05:07 AM // 05:07	#5
Fury Incarnate Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Connecticut, USA Profession: R/	Your gear choices should reflect your build. If you're using an adrenaline-heavy build, you might want furious (personally I don't think it's powerful enough to run even then, but that's up to you.) Zealous is a good way to manage energy in an energy-heavy build since swords attack fairly fast, particularly if you're using skills that increase attack speed. Ie., because classes are so flexible in their builds in GW, its hard to suggest a "best" mod for mainline PvE. Personally I'd recommend Sundering or Vampiric, but again that's up to you.

Mar 14, 2008, 05:12 AM // 05:12	#6
Richardt Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: http://friendsofloa.com/forum Guild: Leader-Legion of Avalon [LoA] Alliance-Recruiting PM for info!	I was a big fan of Zealous for a while-loves me some energy.

Mar 14, 2008, 06:13 AM // 06:13	#7
Kyomi Tachibana Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oregon, USA Guild: Where iz teh Bonuz [WitB] Profession: P/W	Zealous is excellent when running a build that inludes "You Move Like A Dwarf!" Or "Finish Him!", or PvE skills in general.

Mar 14, 2008, 06:38 AM // 06:38	#8
Marty Silverblade Administrator Join Date: Jun 2006	Furious is crap, if you want to pump up your adrenaline, then take FGJ and abuse DSlash. You'll only need Zealous if you're going to spam expensive PvE skills, but I don't think there are that many that would actually be useful. Vamp > Furious & Zealous in PvE.

Mar 14, 2008, 08:01 AM // 08:01	#9
Div I like yumy food! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Where I can eat yumy food Guild: Dead Alley [dR] Profession: Mo/R	Vamp or zealous depending on if you want damage or energy.

Mar 14, 2008, 05:42 PM // 17:42	#10
Wirt Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: Conscripts of Ascalon Profession: W/	Personally my most used sword and ax uses zealous. But it depends on the build that you are running. If you have an energy intensive build, use zealous, however if you are all or near all adrenaline and are choosing between the 2 mods, might as well use furious. If you do use zealous, make sure you have another weapon without zealous in the quick weapon slot, so you dont get stranded between fights with low E and only one pip of regen. Vampiric is probably the best at giving damage, but the degen is kinda annoying, however you can again jsut switch out between fights.

Mar 14, 2008, 05:45 PM // 17:45	#11
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	Of the two, Zealous. I can't think of many times when I need that extra energy though.

Mar 15, 2008, 11:32 PM // 23:32	#12
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	Thanks a lot guys.

Mar 15, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44	#13
nem coke Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: What Are We Doing [Here]	This has been bothering me for a while...Let's assume you have 3 weapon sets (put the spear/bow or whatever aside).... zealous, elemental and #1 set and you run Cripslash,Rush and Final thrust. Would furious be worth bringing there? This is just a random example, so without ''OMG WHO'D RUN THAT CRAP'' pls. All the stuff I mentioned reffers to pvp. Also srry for not making a new thread.

Mar 16, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23	#14
Crom The Pale Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Ageis Ascending Profession: W/	Furious basically grants you 1 extra strike of adrenaline every 10 hits... For weapon mods most will go with the following lineup: Vamp Sundering Zealous Elemental(matched to a conjure) None of the other weapon prefixs are worth using.

Mar 16, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45	#16
Diddy bow Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!! Guild: looking for one :p Profession: A/D	Id go for a vamp, with an elemental when you not hitting much, but out of the two furious zealous can somtimes drain more than you gain .